released 4/22/2022
Jessica Hooten Wilson’s latest book is called The Scandal of Holiness: Renewing Your Imagination in the Company of Literary Saints. In the book’s Introduction, she writes: “We cannot concoct holiness on our own, decide what it looks like without examples, or try to become holy without other people. The goal is to be remade into God’s likeness, and we do so by imitating models of holiness. When we read stories of holiness, we live vicariously through those stories, then we body them forth in our reality. The models become part of our imagination, our way of seeing how to live a holy life.” Ken Myers introduces a conversation with her with some reflections about the ethical role of narrative from Stanley Hauerwas and others.
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