released 11/19/2021
Ken Myers talks with essayist L. M. Sacasas about his writing on technology and society. His reflections are currently available at his Substack site, “The Convivial Society.” In this conversation, Sacasas discusses some of the ideas of Ivan Illich (1926– 2002), whose work has influenced Sacasas’s own understanding of the anti-human dynamics of technological society.
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