Norman Wirzba’s book Agrarian Spirit: Cultivating Faith, Community, and the Land (University of Notre Dame Press, 2022) was the occasion for my fourth interview with him (on Volume 157). Where his earlier books have discussed theologies of Creation, farming, and food, this latest book applied those theoretical concerns to the question of spiritual practices.
Wirzba reminds his readers that the word “theory” is at root about a way of seeing things, which (if we are living deliberately) transforms our actions as well as our thoughts. In a chapter titled “Learning to See,” Wirzba writes:
“[I]t is important to underscore that ancient philosophy, and the ‘science’ it made possible, were first and foremost about the advocacy for a way of life and the disciplines that enabled its practitioners to live well (however that was conceived). Theoria, the way of seeing being recommended by a philosophical school, was inextricably connected to an ethos or practical way of being in the world. To the extent that one’s picture of the world did not help people live better lives, one ceased being genuinely philosophical. The whole point in serious contemplation of the world was to effect self-transformation, which meant that an ethos was accompanied by an askesis, a form of asceticism or personal discipline that aligned the life of the wisdom seeker with the truth of the world. Theoria, ethos, and askesis were inextricably intertwined and influenced each other in important ways.”
A few pages later, Wirzba introduces some ideas from Maximus the Confessor, who was born in Palestine in around 580, and whose theology accentuated the cosmic scope of redemption.
“Jesus is not simply a moral teacher. In his embodied life and way of being, Jesus shows what it practically takes for creatures to live the abundant life God has wanted them to live all along. His miracles, rather than being an interruption of the laws of nature, are acts of liberation that free people from the destructive bondages of demon possession, hunger, illness, alienation, and death. Jesus is the complete, embodied realization of life’s possibility as a way of love. To see him is to see the divine love that created the heavens and the earth. To participate in his life is to take on his point of view and thus to see everything in a completely new way. As Paul would put it, to be ‘in Christ’ means that we no longer see others from a human point of view: ‘if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: everything old has passed away; see, everything has become new!’ (2 Corinthians 5:17).
“To proclaim Jesus as creator is, therefore, to open up a new understanding of the world as the place of God’s ongoing, redemptive work. It is to see each creature as blessed by God and each person as a child of God. Jesus, in other words, is for Christians the interpretive lens that enables them to see everything in terms of a new framework of significance and meaning. To participate in his ethos is to see every creature and every place as a sacred gift.
“It took many years to develop the insight that in Jesus Christ a new way of seeing the world came into being. One particularly important place, however, was in monastic and mystical traditions that stressed ascetical disciplines as a way for people to share in the divine life and the divine way of seeing reality. As one example, I will focus on the seventh-century Byzantine monk Maximus the Confessor because it is in him that we find a Christian theoria developed in a rigorous and fruitful manner.
“Maximus says that with Jesus ‘a wholly new way of being [kainoterou tropou] human appeared. God has made us like himself, and allowed us to participate in the very things that are most characteristic of his goodness.’ Christ is the center of the universe and the gate through which true and complete life moves because in him we find the definitive, embodied expression of the divine love that is life’s beginning, sustenance, and end. As John’s prologue put it, all creatures came into being through Jesus, who is the divine Logos. ‘All of Maximus’ thinking about the created world comes under the economy of the incarnation of the Word, which is the entrance of the God beyond being into being.’ [quotation from Joshua Lollar, To See into the Life of Things: The Contemplation of Nature in Maximus the Confessor and his Predecessors (Thessaloniki: Brepols Publishers, 2013) 262.] The remarkable thing is that Jesus invites people to participate in God’s way of being and to be, as John’s gospel put it, the friends of God (John 15:15).
“For Maximus it was of utmost importance that both divine and creaturely natures were fully affirmed and respected in their union in Christ. Jesus shows that becoming human does not denigrate divinity, nor does being divine obliterate creatureliness. He also shows that in their coming together a new mode of life or tropos (in Greek) becomes possible in this world. Lars Thunberg provides a helpful analogy for thinking about this dynamic coming together: ‘It is a union which can be characterized as similar to that between fire and iron. Iron glows in fire but remains what it is in itself. In one and the same hypostasis iron and fire are found together, but the piece of iron effects exactly that which is in accordance with its own nature as well as that which belongs to both — i.e., it glows, but in a way that is proper to iron alone.’ Union without confusion, interpenetration yet distinctness — these are each important to remember because the path of salvation (what Greek theologians often described as theosis, a creature’s participation in the life of God) means that creatureliness is never denied, destroyed, or left behind. Rather, what happens is that distinctly human life is lifted up into the divine life, where it realizes its full potential. Because Jesus is at once fully human and fully divine, he can lead people into the perfect realization of their humanity.
“The task of Christians as followers of Christ is to help fellow creatures move into the fullness of their life in God. They are, as Paul put it, to be ‘ministers of reconciliation’ in the world (2 Corinthians 5:18). But to do this Christians must learn to see the world as God sees it. They need the proper theoria. For Maximus, having the proper theoria means learning to see creatures in their relation to Christ. Using his technical language, people must learn to see how the logos that defines each creature is related to the divine Logos made incarnate in Christ. Why? Because if creatures are created through and have their being in Christ, then their lives are at their best when they exist in ways that resonate with his way of being.
“Logos is a Greek term that is notoriously difficult to pin down because of its wide usage in ancient philosophical and spiritual contexts. As employed by Maximus, however, it is fairly clear that it refers to something like the dynamic principle of order and coherence that enables each creature to be the unique being that it is. To know a creature’s logos, in other words, is to know its capacities and potential. To say that Christ is the eternal Logos continuously and intimately present to each particular created logos is to say several things. First, no creature is the source of its own life. It depends on the power of God to sustain it in its being. Second, no creature is complete in itself. All creatures are created to be in relationship with others, drawing their daily nurture and help from them. When creatures properly receive and give help, the webs of creation are strengthened. The trouble, however, is that sometimes creatures are prevented from realizing their potential. Their logos, which enables them to express their unique capacities, is frustrated by (alienating, fragmenting, or violating) ways of being that bring harm rather than healing, deprivation rather than nurture. To say that a creature is prevented from achieving its potential is also to say that its logos is being derailed, distorted, or denied. Third, if creatures are to maximally realize the potential that is unique to their logos, they need to live in ways that lead into ever-greater communion with God and fellow creatures. This is what Jesus does with his tropos or mode of life. He models the ways of being that produce abundant life. The task of creatures is to participate (in ways appropriate to their natures) in his way of life by bringing their tropos as closely into alignment as possible with his tropos. The moment when full alignment is achieved is also the moment when God is all in all (1 Corinthians 15:28).”
Related reading and listening
- The confident optimism in true Christian asceticism — Philosopher Étienne Gilson on the essential goodness of Creation
- How words are central to the human experience — FROM VOL. 95 Craig Gay reflects on the essential linguistic nature of humanity: how our growth (or decline) in life is tied to words. (18 minutes)
- Festivity and the goodness of Creation — Drawing on Josef Pieper’s ideas, Ken Myers explains why the spirit of festivity is the spirit of worship, and that “entertainment” is ultimately an artificial, contrived, and empty effort to achieve festivity. (25 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 162 — FEATURED GUESTS: Mark Noll, R. Jared Staudt, Paul Weston, William C. Hackett, Hans Boersma, and David Paul Baird
- Forms as portals to reality — Ken Myers explains the ancient classical and Christian view that music embodies an order and forms that correspond to the whole of created reality, in its transcendence and materiality. (54 minutes)
- Creation’s goodness and human faithfulness — J. Matthew Bonzo and Michael R. Stevens on Wendell Berry’s understanding of how Creation is a gift with certain givenness
- Farming and our primal vocation — Shawn and Beth Dougherty make a theological case for biomimicry, or fulfilling our original vocation of tending the earth by working according to the nature of Nature. (68 minutes)
- A theology of eating — FROM VOL. 113 Theologian Norman Wirzba examines the relationship between food and faith. (24 minutes)
- Honoring the pigness of pigs — FROM VOL. 137 Popular innovator and speaker on farming practices Joel Salatin talks about the challenges of caring for Creation within an agricultural and food system that pays little attention to the purposes and inclinations of Creation. (25 minutes)
- An account of God’s relatedness to time and space — Colin Gunton on the trinitarian conception of the divine economy in St. Irenaeus
- What does it mean to be a creature? — Canon-theologian Simon Oliver explains how and why the doctrine of Creation is cardinal and must frame all theology. (62 minutes)
- “Reading Lewis with blinders on” — Chris Armstrong explains how C. S. Lewis’s work is grounded deeply in the Christian humanist tradition. (45 minutes)
- Creation as beauty and gift — FROM VOL. 67 David Bentley Hart describes how the Christian understanding of Creation as beauty and gift, as the outward expression of the delight the Trinity has in itself, reveals a vision of reality different from the pagan or fatalist vision of reality. (12 minutes)
- The Life was the Light of men — In a lecture from 2018, Ken Myers contrasts the Enlightenment’s understanding of reason with the Christocentric conception of reason. (57 minutes)
- Discerning an alternative modernity — In a lecture from 2019, Simon Oliver presents a summary of the cultural consequences of the comprehensiveness of the work of Christ. (28 minutes)
- Lessons from Leviticus — The book of Leviticus may be assumed to be irrelevant for charting a way through the challenges of modernity. Theologian Peter J. Leithart disagrees. (22 minutes)
- A theology of active beauty — In a 2010 lecture, George Marsden examines a few ways in which the distorting effects of Enlightenment rationalism were resisted in the work of Jonathan Edwards. (64 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 161 — FEATURED GUESTS: Andrew Wilson, Kyle Edward Williams, Andrew James Spencer, Landon Loftin, Esther Lightcap Meek, Andrew Davison
- Wirzba, Norman — FROM THE GUEST PAGE: Norman Wirzba pursues research and teaching interests at the intersections of theology, philosophy, ecology, and agrarian and environmental studies.
- Understanding the doctrine of participation — FROM VOL. 150Theologian and priest Andrew Davison believes that retrieving the historic doctrine of participation is vital to help Christians escape from the default philosophy of the age. (32 minutes)
- On Earth as it is in Heaven — FROM VOL. 108Hans Boersma — author of Heavenly Participation: The Weaving of a Sacramental Tapestry — explains why Christians should reject the modern separation of Heaven and Earth and recover a “sacramental ontology.” (26 minutes)
- Lilies as analogues for farming — Fred Bahnson on the wisdom of attending to patterns of Creation
- Making peace with the land — Fred Bahnson challenges us to consider how we might honor our created and redeemed relationship with the earth as God’s stewards. (48 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 157 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Allan C. Carlson, Matthew Stewart, Steven Knepper, Holly Ordway, Norm Klassen, and Norman Wirzba
- This world is now my home — Belden Lane describes several approaches to understanding how we experience the sacredness of earthly places and how we learn to see God manifest in His Creation. (48 minutes)
- Breaking out of the immanent frame — Norman Wirzba on the true character of Creation and of our creatureliness
- Living in a meshwork world — Theologian Norma Wirzba believes that Creation is the “material manifestation of God’s love” and that this fundamental teaching affects everything, especially our understanding of the meaning of modern environmental crises and climate change. (17 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 154 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Felicia Wu Song, Michael Ward, Norman Wirzba, Carl Trueman, D. C. Schindler, and Kerry McCarthy
- For the beauty of the earth — Dietrich von Hildebrand on how the love of God deepens our love for the beauty found in Creation
- In the house of Tom Bombadil — C. R. Wiley explores the mysterious, “allusive” figure of Tom Bombadil in J. R. R. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings. (17 minutes)
- Sneaking past watchful dragons — Junius Johnson describes how Hans Urs von Balthasar’s understanding of Creation resonates with that of C. S. Lewis and Bonaventure, all three of whom served as mentors in his thinking about beauty. (18 minutes)
- Faith born of wonder — Theologian Andrew Davison echoes a theme in the work of G. K. Chesterton, describing the work of apologetics as awakening a sense of wonder in the reality of Creation as a beautiful gift. (23 minutes)
- The religion of the Logos — Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger on acknowledging the Source of rationality
- Why “Creation” is more than “origins” — In this archive interview from Volume 121 of the Journal, Michael Hanby talks about why we shouldn’t assume that science can ever be philosophically and theologically neutral. (32 minutes)
- Creation, natural law, and ecological concerns — Christopher Thompson discusses our need to grow in wisdom and humility, that we might flourish in this ordered cosmos in which we live. (16 minutes)
- St. Thomas and the wisdom of Creation — Christopher Thompson offers a renewed vision of “the human person [as] an embodied, spiritual creature dwelling in a cosmos of created natures, intelligently ordered by God and capable of being intelligibly grasped by human reason.” (16 minutes)
- Hans Boersma on For the Life of the World — Drawing from Alexander Schmemann’s book, Hans Boersma asserts that a recovered understanding of the relationship between God and Creation is essential to addressing a host of modern cultural crises. (17 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 143 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Mark Regnerus, Jessica Hooten Wilson, John Henry Crosby, John F. Crosby, Wynand De Beer, and Sørina Higgins
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 139 — FEATURED GUESTS:
W. Bradford Littlejohn, Simon Oliver, Matthew Levering, Esther Lightcap Meek, Paul Tyson, and David Fagerberg
- What they saw in America — Sociologist James Nolan describes the perception of American culture of four distinguished foreign travelers: Alexis de Tocqueville, Max Weber, G. K. Chesterton, and Sayyid Qutb. (5 minutes)
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 137 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Gilbert Meilaender, James L. Nolan, Joel Salatin, Michael Di Fuccia, Robin Leaver, and Michael Marissen
- Simon Oliver: Creation, Modernity, & Public Theology — Simon Oliver examines the traditional understanding of the doctrine of Creation and explains how some of our modern divisions and disputes are the products of an insufficient framework for Creation that developed during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. (71 minutes)
- Fulfillment is ek-static — Pope Benedict XVI summarizes the understanding of Maximus the Confessor (c.580-662) on the true nature of freedom
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 129 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Nicholas Carr, Robert Pogue Harrison, R. J. Snell, Norman Wirzba, Philip Zaleski, Carol Zaleski, and Peter Phillips
- God’s love: originating, sustaining, restoring — Jonathan R. Wilson on the inseparability of creation and redemption
- In Him we have our being — E. L. Mascall on the meaning of creation
- CSA’s: Church Supported Agriculture — Norman Wirzba on assuming our creaturely identity
- Cultural participation in reconciliation — Jonathan Wilson on faithfully representing Creation in the culture of the Church
- True transcendence, true immanence — D. C. Schindler on how believers can be practical atheists
- Mars Hill Audio Journal, Volume 120 — FEATURED GUESTS:
Douglas Rushkoff, Phillip Thompson, Jonathan Wilson, James Bratt, D. C. Schindler, and Paul Elie